Tips on How to Steer Clear of a Toxic Relationship

Clues We Miss…

Narcissists have a way of playing the pity card better than anyone. But, if you are aware, there are some clues READ: RED FLAGS that you can use as an indicator that perhaps your Romeo may one day leave you bleeding.

1. The old adage: “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” OWN IT! If there is dysfunction in the narc’s immediate family, more than likely there is dysfunction within the narc. I heard a story once where a little boy was brought up by a pack of wolves…it was later made into a wonderful film “Jungle Book” created by the genius of spin Walt Disney – master of fairy tales. This is the same dude who brainwashed us on other classics like Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. If he were still alive, I believe I’d have cause to bring him up on charges for crimes against female humanity. While miracles do exist from time to time, the reality is that if an individual is brought up in sickness, abuse and chaos, that is “normal” to them, those are the values they internalize. While many of us have issues, there is the normal “dysfunction” then there is the real dark disordered dysfunction and you need to pay careful attention to the cues, the body language and the discussions that are had early on and scope out what the deal is before you fall in too deep. Remember, when you marry, you’re not only marrying your intended but his whole family, warts and all. Your children will also share in that gene pool. Tread carefully.

2. If your “Romeo” has labeled everyone psycho and crazy, the only assumption you can make is he made them that way…ask yourself: WHO is the common denominator in all these relationships?

3. If for some reason your new beau, has no contact with his family, don’t assume it’s because he’s decided to cut the strings. It could very well be he was told: “Don’t show your face here again.” Ask yourself: WHY? AND in the event you conclude it’s because his family is disordered…see #1 above.

4. If relationships with grown children have been severed, listen carefully to what the narc says. There could always be one “bad seed” although I don’t believe bad seeds are born but made. Frequently there are a few “bad seeds” floating around, might even be ONE that he claims one of those "CRAZY WOMEN" tricked him into claiming as his own...all of them nonetheless with different “baby mammas” who have all been labeled "bi-polar" by the narc…again…it’s like math…FIND THE COMMON DENOMINATOR

5. If there is a history of a string of lost jobs, and in every job he was “fired” but it was “wrongful” termination – while it is common knowledge that psychopaths are everywhere…how many jobs can someone cycle through? Moreover, by 40 you’d think someone would have found a career…look for the holes in the Swiss cheese so to speak…usually the answer is somewhere in there.

6. If he’s in a rush to get the relationship moving, as in immediately…if he pressures you to move in, just can’t get enough of you…that’s called DESPERATION…he needs a pacifier, not a partner…while they both start with the letter “P” they are two completely different things…ONE is an OBJECT…

7. Understand that “Flattery” is for fools – if the key to your heart, lies in all the compliments and charm he’s using…RUN! When you get to slow down to catch your breath, check yourself and make sure you don’t need anyone’s validation to feel good about yourself. This will keep you safe. A very wise woman once said to me: "Whenever someone flatters me, I tell them “Keep stepping” I asked her why and she explained whenever someone uses flattery – they want something from you."
It’s a true sign of a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

8. If they have no savings by middle age, and come with a collection of divorce certificates, child support decrees, and a bankruptcy…contact your nearest mental health professional to discover why you believe it is your duty and calling to rescue someone that has done and will continue to do a fine job of burying themselves alive. It is said that teenagers do dumb things because their brains are not fully developed until the age of 21; however, this is not appropriate behavior for a middle aged man.

9. If you still use a dustpan and broom and the dustpan is missing…you’ve just been gaslighted. Find his favorite pair of boxers, usually the pair with the holes in them and hide them in the cat litter box. Start making plans for your escape.

10. Finally, if this individual seems dark, if you have a bad gut feeling or something does not sit right with you early on…rely on your intuition…your gut rarely steers you wrong. No one is perfect, but in hindsight there hasn’t been one victim I’ve met that hasn’t said their gut wasn’t screaming. Our creator doesn’t use faxes, email or text messaging, but “it” gave us very a very good “radar” system. Learn to use it.

Aug 5 - 11AM
Lil.Ms.Sunshine
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Flattery: the most critical piece for me

I think it was all the flattery that turned a red flag into a green light in my head. I was raised to think it was vain to feel good about myself. It was subtle, but a constant lesson. There's an old saying and translated into English is: "The tall grass gets cut first." My basic interpretation is that you shouldn't shine or stand out. So, I was starving for some validation for my good points because I rarely give them to myself. It's an ongoing act of Will for me to do this for myself and it feels like brushing my teeth with the opposite hand or parting my hair on the other side. At the very least, I do question flattery (from males) these days. But, looking at both genders might be good. I won't starve myself anymore.
Jul 25 - 3PM
onthewayout
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So I am not crazy then after all???

I am only 2 mos into realizing that I am in a real bad situation. He closed my checking account. Has taken my car keys. Hides my glasses. Forgets constantly to pay the bills so our utilities are always shut off. I have been in recovery for 3 yrs from opiates. He just let a homeless couple who he doesnt really know with BIG Addiction issues....opiates.....move into our home with no warning. I thought I was losing my mind. I have no car no savings no dignity nothing left but depression and despair.....I am considering calling a womans shelter and taking my daughter and hauling ass...but despite all this crap I am afraid to make the only move that can save my (and my daughter;s) life.
Jul 25 - 4PM (Reply to #17)
fooled no longer
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If you feel this way, and

If you feel this way, and have no family or friends nearby, you should consider a womens shelter to get away from the mess. the destruction could get much orse, you have a child to consider. You should post your story on the part of the forum 1-3 for people who are trying to break free. then people can give you help. your post may not be found here. re post it under forum steps 1 to 3 titled HELP!
Jul 15 - 9AM
Kiwi2005
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Michele... Thank you!!!

Thank you so much for posting this! I think it can be used in ANY relationship, not just a relationship with a Narc. Just what I needed to read today :) Thanks!
Jul 8 - 11AM
onwithmylife
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Michelle love this blog

your use of the words, common denominator made me laugh out loud because that is what I wrote in one ,of my last letters to the Narc and he went beserk on me i a letter he sent to me, whore, slut, offering free sex, every insane thing he could think of NOT to have to look INWARD at his pitiful souless ,shell of a self.love your dustpan comment bring back fond memories.............kinda like the toster, but that was gone for good!!!
Jul 9 - 8AM (Reply to #14)
michele115 (not verified)
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Thanks OWL

It's true, once the fog clears, that is what this all boils down to we just can't believe it when in the fog... I sense the ex narc we'll he's still a narc but your ex, had a bit of a MATH challenge? LOL - oooooo a trigger for him...:P Hugs!
Jul 7 - 6PM
maky1
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Mine was very rich... but it

Mine was very rich... but it was a family business that his dad built (which he liked to say HE built even though he was a teenager in high school when daddy started it all). He told me he wanted a love like his parents' who have been married close to 50 years with "unconditional" love. Sounds sweet and romantic, right? Well, information gets drip-fed to you over time, revealing some truths to the lies. I later found out his parents are NOT happily married at all. When he said I remind him of his mom and he loves his mom and he would love to find a woman like his mom and have a relationship like his parents', I get it now. Because he later told me how his mom told him things like she would never marry his father if she could do it over, but she stays because she has no one and nothing else and always wanted a big mansion to live in. He told me how his dad has cheated over and over, gave his mom a disease, etc. Sounds like his dad is a major, abusive jerk, but the ex barely said one thing about his dad-- it was all lovey talk about his mom and her unconditional love. Always telling me he told his mom about me and talked to his mom about me ---oh, he lived in the mansion with them, by the way. Claimed it was his house and he moved them in to take care of them, but that is not the case. different story for a different time, lol. There is a reason he takes his women to hotels and doesn't take anyone to "his" big house where they would meet the parents and discover some lies. So my ex would like a woman who sits passively and takes the abuse and lack of love and stays because of the financial rewards while he is out doing whatever abusive, cheating crap he wants. The "image" of a loving marriage is there, but the loving part isn't. That is what the ex wants and thinks is a good marriage. It is true... pay attention to his relationships, but don't just listen to how he describes them because more information may come out later that sheds a different light. Ask questions and see for yourself by meeting the family and watching how they interact.
Jul 7 - 5AM
dolphingirl
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Red flags for the high-functioning narc?

My ex-narc who was the cruelest, most dangerous man that I have been with does not fit most of these red-flags. He is successful in his career, he had a lot of money and worldly power respected in his field he visits his family and they seem to love him, etc. yet he fits almost all of the criteria for narcistic personality disorder He could be the poster child for NPD He really did not want, money, or anything external from me. What he wanted was complete control, dominance, submissiveness, to own me, destroy me and then to throw me away- one more under his belt It was sooo confusing being in a relationship with him because he carried an air of complete confidence. With all of the external marks of success it was difficult to cut through the masks. I did know in my gut that there was something very off with him, I actually could not sleep in the same bed with him. I was too anxious and unsettled. has anyone else come across this kind of narc?
Jul 25 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
fooled no longer
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ditto!

ditto!
Jul 10 - 9PM (Reply to #9)
KRISTINA
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Yes, happened to me too

He has a good job and his boss and friends love him so much. His family told me that he is a saint, NEVER hurt anyone. When I showering him with my love, he pull himself away from me, telling me that my love to him should be studied. Because it's too much. For me, I always love my exes the way i love him. When i keep distance from him, he keep coming to me, call me and keep texting me with a lovely sweet words like i miss you like i never miss anyone before or I never love a woman like i love you (and then I heard from OW he told her the same ) My relationship with him exactly was like roller coaster. I am glad that i can let him go, after he just walk away silently, run for another supply. He told everyone I am the one who have problem, I am the one who tell a lie about my past. so funny how he tried to put himself as a hero.
Jul 11 - 6AM (Reply to #10)
dolphingirl
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"the real enemy is the one clothed in decency" song lyric

I am glad that you got away too, these men are so dangerous and they seem to want to destroy our credibility and make us look like the insane ones I heard this song lyric today, "the real enemy is the one clothed in decency"
Jul 7 - 6PM (Reply to #8)
maky1
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yep. Mine was that. His two

yep. Mine was that. His two friends adored him and seemed to worship him. Never met the family, but sounds like mom loves him and tries to help him (emotionally). He is successful and rich and shows it. His business is doing well. But the disorders is there. I felt something was "off" within two weeks of dating him. But I let him talk me out of it! I wondered if I was self-sabotaging a good thing out of my own fears, lol!!! But I was really self-protecting and knew to get away. Too bad I didn't go. It's like I had to stick it out to get the proof that something was "off" instead of just feeling it. Boy did I get the proof.
Jul 7 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
Lobo555
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More like psychopath

CharlieSheenWinning is totally a narc. He fits all the criteria above except his family loves him. HOWEVER, the guy I dated *before* CharlieSheenWinning -- he's more like what you're talking about. Successful, well-respected in town, had been married for a long time, did charity work for veterans, etc. He got divorced, dated someone for 2 yrs., she broke up with him, and he sought me out. I told him I didn't want a fling, I wanted a relationship. He said he wanted that, too. I always felt anxious while I was dating him and didn't know why. This was a "nice" man whom everyone loved and no one had a bad thing to say about him. The truth: He had no empathy, didn't know or care what happened to me. I was in an accident and called him to let him know. He blew me off for 2 days until he wanted me to see him/have sex. He never mentioned the accident. He critiqued my sexual technique, then denied he was doing so -- both made me feel like shit. He broke up with me via email when I said in a FB post that I had a great evening listening to music with my "boyfriend." He objected to being called that -- said he never was my boyfriend. "You need to find someone who wants to fill that role. I hope we can be friends," he said. I told him to fuck off. I knew in my gut there was something wrong with him despite external success and an upstanding image. Now I thank God I found out after only 2 1/2 months what a psychopath he is. Depite outward appearances, your gut always knows what's right.
Jul 7 - 6AM (Reply to #6)
fooled no longer
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yes dolphingirl, my Narc was

yes dolphingirl, my Narc was exactly as you have discribed and still is. he destroyed my career, came close to destroying my health and is still abusing me by proxy under the cover of being the good respectable business man. The wounds under this are so much worse as the world cant see it. his family have been completely fooled by him too. Its devastating and so isolating because it screws with your head. send me a message for a chat
Jul 7 - 2AM
fooled no longer
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YES YES YES!

YES YES YES!
Jul 7 - 12AM
Amazed
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Beautiful Michelle115

Great message. Listen to your gut. Thank you for saying that. "Our creator doen's use faxes, email, or text messaging, but "it" gave us a very good radar system. Learn to use it." Thank you. We have been through hell. We have wanted someone to love. We found, or usually THEY found us, right! When they found us, they found their prey. We thought we found love. Our radar was "disengaged" by a villan, a con man who we thought indeed was our savior. Our lines got big time crossed... Is the key to listen to that little voice "this guy is trying to get me" However we interpret it to decide what it all means,,,how it will unfold,,we get swept up by the excitement, until we learn that they are total psychopaths.. Question is to how to rewire to hear it more clearly, accurately!! :)
Jul 7 - 1AM (Reply to #3)
michele115 (not verified)
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Amazed...

I don't think the radar is broken, I think it's our brains. When we are young, we are taught to deviate from what comes naturally...we are molded into conformity. I think for the most part some of that is okay; however, we were taught not to take risks, to always play safe, to fit in, and I think a lot of that is what has landed a lot of us in bad situations. We have a desire, a drive, a spirit that wants to lead us somewhere and we are told "NO" it's not wise, "what if" and so we begin to learn how to doubt ourselves and the voice inside of us that is trying to lead us. I think it starts with really getting in touch with ourselves and knowing our truth... And that is what the journey is about. Hugs!
Jul 6 - 9PM
Mag
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Clues we miss

OMG!!!! Michele you are right on target...I experienced all of these things, saw the red flags, but ignored them..wow, love this list!!!!...I will pass it on!!!!
Jul 6 - 8PM
Jannie In the Sun
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Yup, that was Him - and ME!

I am keeping your list handy! You just described my entire experience from tip # 1 - #10. I DID see those red flags and my gut as well as my entire body was revolting against the relationship. I lost weight, I couldn't sleep, I had panic attacks, I smoked. I also had female problems (urinary, etc) the entire relationship which healed right after I left. I had Toxic Narcissist Shock Syndrome! Now that I am aware of how to spot one and how to keep it real regarding expectations and actions, I am wiser and stronger and making peace with my past. I am learning to stay out of self doubts. One of the most important lessons has been to trust my instinct (Higher Power.) I have become healthier and more in touch with my subconscious and God conscious messages and it is a great feeling to be on the other side of my pain. Thanks for your post!